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    Margaret St. Quintin

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    • 5th Great-grandmother of Edward FitzRandolph — 8th Generation
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    • ABT 1385 
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    • Margaret St. Quintin is believed to be the illegitimate daughter of Anthony St. Quintin and Margaret Swynho. However, there is some debate as to whether Margaret is the sister of Anthony St. Quintin instead of his daughter. Gary Boyd Roberts in his 2008 edition of The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants, p. 432, states, “The chronology of generations 8-12 [including Margaret St. Quintin] is tight but seems possible”.

      Currently my website agrees with Gary Boyd Roberts and the Visitations of Yorkshire, 1563-1564. Roberts lists Margaret St. Quintin as "probably" the illegitimate daughter of Sir Anthony St. Quintin and Margaret Swynho, but he does add the following caveat in his book The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants (2008, p. 432), "The chronology of generations 8-12 [includes Margaret St. Quintin] is tight but seems possible."

      Some people have misread Roberts's chart and believe he was claiming Margaret was the daughter of Sir Anthony St. Quintin's wife Elizabeth Gascoigne. Others have jumped on this stating there is no way that Margaret can be Sir Anthony St. Quintin's daughter because he didn't marry Elizabeth Gascoigne until about 1410 which is after the births of both Margaret and her son Sir Christopher Conyers. But this is misreading what Roberts wrote in his book. He states that Margaret St. Quintin's mother was Margaret Swynho and that she was probably illegitimate. Although Elizabeth Gascoigne is shown as Sir Anthony's wife, you have to know how Roberts displays his charts to understand that he shows the wife along with the alleged mistress involved. Margaret Swynho as Margaret St. Quintin's mother is based on the Conyers and Monford pedigrees in the Yorkshire Visitations, 1563-1564 (pp. 74, 213).

      When I put together a timeline based on dates to see if I agree with Roberts, I get the following as a timeline that works: Sir John St. Quintin (b.c. 1347), father of Sir Anthony St. Quintin (b.c. 1365), father of Margaret St. Quintin (b.c. 1385), mother of Sir Christopher Conyers (b.c. 1401). As Roberts said, tight but possible. The fact that Sir Anthony St. Quintin may have married Elizabeth Gascoigne after Margaret and her son Sir Christopher were born supports the Yorkshire Visitations.

      Despite all the discussion, I have not seen any evidence to disprove the Yorkshire Visitations or that the above timeline wouldn't work. So unless somebody finds evidence to the contrary, I believe the most likely scenario is that Margaret St. Quintin is the daughter of Sir Anthony St. Quintin and Margaret Swynho. This agrees with the Visitations of Yorkshire, 1563-1564 for both the Conyers and Monford pedigrees.

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  • Sources for Margaret St. Quintin

    • 1 Burke, Sir Bernard and Ashworth P. Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, The Privy Council, Knightage . . ., 76th edition, London: Harrison and Sons (1914), 767.
    • 2 Foster, Joseph, ed., Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of the County Palatine of Durham, London: Privately printed for Joseph Foster (1887), 85, 203.
    • 3 Moulton, Henry W., Moulton Annals, Chicago, Illinois: Edward A. Claypool, Genealogist (1906), 147.
    • 4 Neale, John Preston, Views of The Seats of Noblemen and Gentlemen, in England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, Vol. 1, London: Sherwood, Jones, and Co. (1824), Section on Hornby Castle, Yorkshire.
    • 5 Norcliffe, Charles Best, ed., The Visitation of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564, Made by William Flower, Esquire, London: Mitchell and Hughes (1881), 74, 213.
    • 6 Page, William, Victoria History of the County of York: North Riding, Vol. 1, London: Constable and Company (1914), 315.
    • 8 Speight, Harry, Romantic Richmondshire: Being a Complete Account of the History, Antiquities and Scenery of the . . ., London: Elliot Stock (1897), 158.